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71. Stop Solving. Start Wondering with Heather Italiano

June 16, 2026

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71. Stop Solving. Start Wondering with Heather Italiano
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"The genius of wonder is crushed by being dismissed. And usually it isn't the obvious, hurtful kind—it's accidental. But that radar is always on, and if it isn't considered here, it starts wondering what else is out there."

-Heather Italiano

Meet our Guest

Heather Italiano is a fellow and master facilitator of the Working Genius, whose own highest genius is Wonder—a kind of radar that never switches off, always scanning for what could be better and what else might be possible. She works with teams to turn that instinct into one of the most productive things an organization can do, helping leaders make real space for curiosity and channel it in service of the work itself.

With more than a decade of experience in the hospitality space, Heather has worked with countless hotels and leaders to move beyond reactive problem-solving and into genuine innovation. She's one of Claire's favorite people to think out loud with and in this conversation, you'll hear them riff and build on each other's ideas from start to finish.

Connect with Heather: http://peoplewarriors.com/

 

Stop Solving. Start Wondering with Heather Italiano

When was the last time someone on your team asked a question that made everyone really stop and think? For many teams, those moments feel uncomfortable. There are deadlines to hit, problems to solve, and a never-ending list of priorities competing for attention. So the question gets set aside, and everyone gets back to work.

The trouble is that innovation rarely emerges from moving faster through the same patterns. It begins with wonder.

In this episode, I talk with Working Genius master facilitator Heather Italiano, whose highest genius is Wonder, about how to make real space for curiosity at work without losing your sense of productivity.

In this episode, you'll hear about:

  • Why questions feel risky at work. When someone asks, "Isn't there a better way to do this?" it's easy to dismiss the question and move on. Heather explains why that response can unintentionally silence your most curious people and limit your team's ability to innovate.
  • The difference between solving problems and exploring possibilities. Many teams spend their days reacting to challenges and fixing what's broken. We discuss why real innovation requires a different question entirely: not "What's the problem?" but "What's possible?"
  • How to create space for wonder without losing productivity. Wonder doesn't have to mean endless brainstorming sessions or unanswered questions. Heather shares practical ways leaders can make room for curiosity while still moving work forward.

 

A few practical takeaways:

  • Schedule wonder proactively, before you need it, so you're not forced into reactive scrambling later.
  • Give your "wonderers" a real outlet- sometimes the entire gift is simply hearing, "That's a good question."
  • Invite curious team members to prepare a few key questions ahead of a meeting rather than putting them on the spot.
  • Use "small w" wonder- improving how your team executes even when big-picture change is not aligned with your current needs.

Heather's story of the Magic Castle Hotel, a tiny, amenity-free hotel that out-ranks the Ritz purely through service, shows what becomes possible when leaders stop treating their limitations as constraints.

Connect with Heather: http://peoplewarriors.com/

 

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About your Host

Claire Laughlin, MA, Organizational Development Consultant

Hi! I'm Claire Laughlin, and I love helping leaders like you create workplaces where people truly thrive.

For over two decades, I've been rolling up my sleeves alongside teams and organizations, using hands-on methods that actually work (because let's face it - theory only gets you so far!). 

I specialize in teaching leaders how to engage their teams, helping managers become more effective facilitators, and showing people how to work better together.

I'm also a master facilitator for the Six Types of Working Genius® - a fantastic tool that helps you understand and leverage your natural talents.

When I'm not helping leaders like you build happy, high-energy workplaces, I'm enjoying a hike in the forest with my dog Fiona, spending time with my family or curled up with a great book.

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